Saturday 28 May 2011

Facebook Feedback # 1

[One Facebook post has tempted me to comment and counter-comment. I think these conversation is historically important, hence i would like to make a copy-paste file of this with important comments from my friends in this blog only. And this was almost the same time my last blog was published on the same topic. More relevant comments on the FB post will be added to the comments section of this blog also]

Anjishnu Bandyopadhyay: This is what we wanted...PORIBARTAN.... Director of Bangur Institute of Neuro Sciences suspended for argueing with our dear CM...for protesting against the flock of reporters accompanying the CM, and disturbing the hospital complex.
Think of the "poor" patients who were supposed to be operated on by the suspended doctor today.

Bibaswan Banerjee: This is bound to happen if a fascist and irrational person is in power........

Aranya Sen: Gone will be the days of democracy and freedom of speech! Voice something against the ruling party, and face the wrath! Are the days of 70s coming back?

Bibaswan: but unfortunately it is our generation that have voted for them.....without realizing the direction of the "paribartan"......

Shailesh Kolekar: this is bad ...

Anjishnu: fortunate for the Director...the CM didn't repeat her acts of slapping and smearing black paints on the faces of Govt officials.

Bibaswan: Wait a bit....she will do that soon..........i amsure!

Abhilash Nair: dada, seesm u dont like didi 2 much :)

Sandipi Mukherjee: ki r kora jabe.. ??

Subhen Kar: There is nothing called a poor patient in this country you cannot be poor and a patient at the same time. Hence it is justified.

Supratim Pal: what the CM did (suspending BINP director) y'day is not supportable, so is the functioning and deterioration of health services in the 34 glorious years of Left rule. if her surprise visits yield minimum results in improving health services in govt hospitals, real poor will bless her, not upper-middle class poor like us! Bibaswan, most of us (voters) had experienced TINA factor all these years... we were not in heaven either Aranya... giving a chance to another party for 5 years will not pull us down to another hell, we hope. change is the most constant factor we seemed to have forgotten in the Left rule! instead of just visiting and taking superb pix of kerala, Anjishnu, can we take some lessons from one of the most developed state? WB is the ONLY state where we have both the snow-capped hills and sun-kissed beaches... why didn't our jyoti babu develop it on kerala tourism model? when can we have a hospital like CMC vellore? why can't we tap thousands of medical tourists like TN? why should there be exam special trains to B'lore? why should our best brains go to HYD or B'lore? why doesn't a govt talk to poor farmers before acquiring their farmland just to appease certain biz groups while parched lands in purulia just lying unused? isn't it fascist and irrational Bibaswan? we don't have answers for all these... we just think it's our fate we were born in 1980/81/82... but we can change our destiny... let's see.

Anjishnu: ‎1. "Surprise visits", followed by the huge crowd of reporters, are mere publicity stunts...she has to remind us tht she's our Health Minister too...there r other ways of improving healthcare, rather than harassing patients.
2. "give a chance to another party"...tht's what ppl hav done...let's see the end results.
3. "snow-capped hills and sun-kissed beaches"...wait for these to be converted to Switzerland and Goa, as per the election manifesto...hope Switzerland doesn't become part of a new state called Gorkhaland.
4. Its not feasible to appease all farmers, more so, if this small % of farmers r backed by opposition. There won't b any industry in the state then. The compesation was pertty good.
5. There r lots of good colleges in Bengal now, the standard of them r better than lot of their counterparts in K'taka.

Abhishek Das: ‎Anjishnu, Did you know that Dr. Gorai (The BINS Director) was a man close to Alimuddin, and he misbehaved with the opponent party CM...so this was bound to happen !! Moreover....a Hospital Director is an Administrative head...& he is not the main surgeon in a surgery team...he was called at CM's Secretariat office for a meeting, but he gave excuses....It's apt he got suspended......Press should be free and fair...that's what democracy is all about ! The press did not flock the inner sanctum of Operation Theatre but some Male wards...so I don't find any wrong in this....

Supratim: 1. not a single reporter or the CM "harassed" any of the patients. wherever the CM goes, media follows... it's a norm not only in bengal... but across the world the press follows heads of states. we did not have to follow any CM to hospital wards in the past few years, as he preferred to sip black tea at Nandan amid sycophant intellectuals than visit patients! weird!!!! 2. gorkhaland problem was made serious by jyoti basu... and the onus of solution will be someone else! great... we will see how that unfolds... how many past CMs wanted to tap tourism in the hills? or the beaches? compare any WBTDC hotels with other state tourism resorts... you guys will get the results... ‎3. why don't you guys ask pro-poor Left leaders why did they go for lock-out in the jute mills? who stopped industrialisation? why do we still see CITU stops work at Haldia petrochem (their flagship pro-industry example) frequently? again, i reiterate, why can't there be industrialisation in dry arid lands of Purulia, Bankura and West Midnapore than in fertile Hooghly, Burdwan and East Midnapore? people in purulia need industry more than anything, as they have only 3 months of agricultural production unlike 12-month farm produce in Singur and its adjoining areas... small % of farmers are ALSO farmers... if someone takes away my laptop, keyboard, cellphone... my means of livelihood... how can i survive? if u take away their land, how can they survive? how many times did the ex-CM talk to the land-losers? or the prospective land-losers before distributing cheques in sept 2006 in singur? how many hearings were done in Singur or in Nandigram? the govt just cannot send a notice via East Midnapore DM and start acquiring land in Nandigram... y'day the NAC cleared compensation six times the present value of land... why can't be done six years ago? land acquisition process would have been smoother then... Singur and Nandigram agitation made policy-makers in Delhi to think also... mamata was never anti-industry but pro-farmers... we know industry cannot come up in the sky... why didn't the Left create a land bank then like what Mamata did soon after became railway minister in 2009... the under-construction railway project and the pace of it in Dankuni is what commuters (and voters) see everyday... what compensation was given to land-losers in rajarhat where a flat now costs more than a 2-bed flat in LA or NYC!!

Sid Pathak: Wow...did that really happen?

Bibaswan: Supratim, the problem is our very own attitude of blaming the past......however we must focus on criticizing the ruling team rather than the party who had already been kicked out!......I believe people must keep faith on TMC and hope they do at least something that would help them earn a pedigree for themselves...........however currently as a common man I feel that Mamata has this attitude of "ami i shob"........the earlier she comes out of this, the better is for the state when we will get to see the "paribartan" in the correct direction.......otherwise it will be the same old situation I am afraid!.....and she must stop making those false promises that she will change everything in 200 days and stuffs..........thats not possible.....not with the people like me and others who prefers to speak a lot and do nothing!!!!!!!!!

Anjishnu: Abhishek, If "being close to Alimuddin" and so called "misbehaving" leads to such suspension, then then either you r not in proper state of mind while writing the post, or we r heading to the black days of '70s.
And read the Telegraph post, you will understand that a "Director" operates also.

Gautam Ghosh: The poor and hapless people are spending the Night on the Hospital Floors with Rats and Mice. The Superintendent is busy...The CM arrives for Inspection...she has the Moral Duty and the Right to do so, as the Defacto head of the State...how come the patients are disturbed?"?They are alighted rather, for the visit of the Angel...Do not talk like a demon ...see yourself in the Mirror , you must have lost youir Human Values and senses to speak such Rot..

Supratim: Anjishnu, just a passing comment: as Bibaswan said we shud not go back to past... but i can't but differ on this "black days" point. i won't go into detailed opinion now, but maybe in my next blog. :-)

Bibaswan: ‎Supratim, I believe you won't mind a few comments from an old friend........Your blogs are exceptinally good in terms of thoughts and composure. But somehow I never see an unbiased view. I believe it is the responsibilty of us to put forward a true and unbiased point and let the people decide.......I know that the state was definitely in dismay during the left front rule......my point is about TMC as an alternative and Mamata as the CM.............are they by any means a better alternative?.........This needs to be seen......whether Mamata is actually capable of doing something constructive...........This Bangur case defintely has a lot more to what has been published.......

Arindam Das: I agree with Supratim. To all Left Sympathizers... plz shut up your mouth ... else next time figure won't be 60 odd ... it will be single digit only :))

Sid: wow...just read the article...I am afraid of Bengal's future...

Sohan Banerjee: Alu.... please dont mind ... but u r politically biased .... people like u kept left in power for so long .... of course they were on ur opposite side

Supratim: Bibaswan, why should i mind? FB and blogs are open space... and thoughts should be shared... thatz why we all participated in this comment thread... anyway, let me put one thing first: from the core of my heart, i am a communist in its true sense; not like jyoti basu who couldn't resist black label every evening or our ex-CM buddha whose daily dose was, as i said earlier, black tea at nandan with sycophants. all leaders have their own way of doing things... tell me one thing is mamata's politics much different what communism, more particularly marxism, is all about? if you look into it, his every step resonates communist manifesto of 1848. i hope everyone of us have read it thoroughly esp since we grew up in a communist-ruled state. our problem with mamata is simple: simplicity, impulsive, rough compared to suave, complex, show-off etc etc of other leaders. many of us may not know how tech-savvy she is, but she won't show it off. she won't flaunt a blackberry or ride a sedan! her politics is like that. we, typical educated bengali middle class, may not find a mirror reflection in her, but millions of marginalised people do get that. as i said in this thread earlier, we (voters in bengal) were suffering from TINA factor for years... There Is No Alternative (TINA)... opposition was made lame-duck and i think that's the best jyoti babu could do during his rule in bengal. yes! it is always an achievement for any democratically elected head of a state to wipe out opposition... and mr basu did that with sending a pipe-smoking dhoti-clad birbhum brahmin to delhi (who never contested an election before this UPA govt) and subtly dividing the congress in bengal in various factions. look at mamata's team now: an MLA who created the rift in bengal congress is now back to TMC, an ex-mayor who once projected her in 1984 elections as a mentor is now her cabinet minister! examples are galore... what she did was to gel the anti-left forces together like what mr basu did in the "dark days of 70s"... lastly, are we ready to give mamata 34 years? of course NOT... we want results, isn't it? she only took her oath last friday... just over a week.. isn't too early to judge her whether she is better or worse? value judgement comes only after she starts doing something... what she is doing now is a bit theatrical (hence my FB posts are 'daily dose of didi drama' accompanying the blog)... she is best in doing so, it's her way of functioning... let's see whether she can change the situation... and Arindam, erokom bolis na. u never know what might happen in another 5 years. erokom bolei kintu oi dhoti-panjabi pora lok ta nije here dol k dubiyechhe. :)

Sohan: friends ..... my educated friends ..... please dont go with d political stunts or advertisement politics ..... I still think from a very nutral pt of view that Mamata has not won..... but left has lost...... I am sure that Mamata will become a danger for democracy soon .... and the sold out Anandabazar will try to cover her back ...... but belive me .... I wish that future proves me wrong

Bibaswan: Supratim, Hyan..........bujhlam tor point ta.......r amio bar bar etai bolchi je dakha jak kichu korte pare kina...........kintu somehow akta sadharon manush hishebe kichutei hisheb ta melate parchi na......actually communism, marxism....eshob amar kache anek boro boro kotha........CPM actually sudhu naam ei oi 2 to follow korte.....kintu oi mamata r karjo kolaap take kichutei bhorsha korte parchi na..........eta jamon narendrapur e paritosh da akbar history te ami ektu beshi number peye jete amake ghor e deke jera korechilo ami tukechi kina..........seirokom i arki!!!!!!

Arindam Das: ‎Supratim, I have made a comment because these ppl found flaws in a govt where are not even in 34 days and couldn't find in them who were in power for 34 years...

Bibaswan: ‎@ Arindam : actually I think we, the people of our generation only started to understand politics lately, in a proper way, studied about it, gathered the intelligence to interpret it just lately..maybe in the past 5 yrs...........and since...

@Supratim : arekta jinis hocche eta je left der akebare vanish hoye jawatao jathesto khotikarok......karon left ache bolei India ajo recession e mukh thubre poreni..........seta mana uchit.........ei desh tar abostha dekhchi to........"daan" er jere jerbaar hoye gache akebaare............serokom abostha na hoy........setai bhoy..........

Arindam: ‎@bibaswan correct and we should wait watch & see rather than jumping to a conclusion so early it's premature and childish too......

Supratim: Bibaswan, ami koekdin agei FB te ekta link share korechhilam... "why the left should not vanish"... saba naqvi er lekha... besh bhalo http://outlookindia.com/article.aspx?271911

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